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The first 20 hires: engineers first, a seller by hire 7

At the median B2B software startup, the first engineer is hire 2, the first salesperson hire 7, the first marketer hire 11 and the first customer success hire 15. Twenty hires take 44 months.

Cristian Frunze
Founder of Ken 5 min read
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Key findings

  • Hire 7

    is the first salesperson at the median startup, after an engineer at hire 2 and before a marketer at hire 11 and customer success at hire 15.

  • 44 months

    from the first hire to the 20th at the median startup, with the middle half of startups taking between 30 and 62 months.

  • 29 vs 42

    months from hire 1 to hire 20 at startups that later reached 100 people, against startups that stayed under 50 people.

  • 18.4%

    of growers' first 20 hires were in sales, against 15.3% for stallers. We had predicted growers would hire more engineers, not more sellers.

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At the median B2B software startup, an engineer is the first or second hire. The first salesperson is hire 7. The first marketer joins at hire 11, the first operations or admin hire at hire 12 and the first customer success or support hire at hire 15. Recruiters and finance staff usually come after hire 20.

We rebuilt the first 20 hires of 6,951 software startups founded 2012 to 2022 and headquartered in the US, the UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland or New Zealand: 609,278 hires in all, ordered by the month each person started. Founders, interns, advisors, board members and investors are not counted as hires.

Figure 1Half of startups have a seller by hire 7, a marketer by hire 11
  • Engineering
  • Sales
  • Marketing
  • Customer success
Half of startups have a seller by hire 7, a marketer by hire 11Line chart over hires 1 to 20. Engineering reaches half of startups at hire 2 and 96.6% by hire 20. Sales reaches half at hire 7 and 82.4% by hire 20. Marketing reaches half at hire 11 and 68.6%. Customer success and support reaches half at hire 15 and 59.5%.Startups with at least one hire in thefunction (%)0%25%50%75%100%5101520Hire numberEngineering · 1: 41.1%Engineering · 2: 61.1%Engineering · 3: 72.6%Engineering · 4: 79.0%Engineering · 5: 83.7%Engineering · 6: 86.5%Engineering · 7: 88.4%Engineering · 8: 89.9%Engineering · 9: 91.2%Engineering · 10: 92.0%Engineering · 11: 93.0%Engineering · 12: 93.7%Engineering · 13: 94.2%Engineering · 14: 94.5%Engineering · 15: 94.9%Engineering · 16: 95.5%Engineering · 17: 95.8%Engineering · 18: 96.1%Engineering · 19: 96.3%Engineering · 20: 96.6%Sales · 1: 11.9%Sales · 2: 21.7%Sales · 3: 30.6%Sales · 4: 37.5%Sales · 5: 43.9%Sales · 6: 49.3%Sales · 7: 54.2%Sales · 8: 58.4%Sales · 9: 61.9%Sales · 10: 65.2%Sales · 11: 67.7%Sales · 12: 70.0%Sales · 13: 72.3%Sales · 14: 74.3%Sales · 15: 76.2%Sales · 16: 77.8%Sales · 17: 79.3%Sales · 18: 80.6%Sales · 19: 81.6%Sales · 20: 82.4%Marketing · 1: 6.8%Marketing · 2: 13.0%Marketing · 3: 19.0%Marketing · 4: 24.2%Marketing · 5: 28.8%Marketing · 6: 32.9%Marketing · 7: 36.9%Marketing · 8: 40.5%Marketing · 9: 44.1%Marketing · 10: 47.5%Marketing · 11: 50.5%Marketing · 12: 53.3%Marketing · 13: 55.9%Marketing · 14: 58.1%Marketing · 15: 60.3%Marketing · 16: 61.9%Marketing · 17: 63.8%Marketing · 18: 65.5%Marketing · 19: 67.2%Marketing · 20: 68.6%Customer success · 1: 4.3%Customer success · 2: 9.3%Customer success · 3: 13.6%Customer success · 4: 18.3%Customer success · 5: 22.5%Customer success · 6: 26.9%Customer success · 7: 30.7%Customer success · 8: 34.1%Customer success · 9: 36.9%Customer success · 10: 40.1%Customer success · 11: 42.8%Customer success · 12: 45.3%Customer success · 13: 47.6%Customer success · 14: 49.3%Customer success · 15: 51.3%Customer success · 16: 53.1%Customer success · 17: 54.8%Customer success · 18: 56.2%Customer success · 19: 58.0%Customer success · 20: 59.5%Sales: half by hire 796.6%82.4%68.6%59.5%
  • Engineering
  • Sales
  • Marketing
  • Customer success
Half of startups have a seller by hire 7, a marketer by hire 11Line chart over hires 1 to 20. Engineering reaches half of startups at hire 2 and 96.6% by hire 20. Sales reaches half at hire 7 and 82.4% by hire 20. Marketing reaches half at hire 11 and 68.6%. Customer success and support reaches half at hire 15 and 59.5%.Startups with at least one hire in the function (%)0%25%50%75%100%15101520Hire numberEngineering · 1: 41.1%Engineering · 2: 61.1%Engineering · 3: 72.6%Engineering · 4: 79.0%Engineering · 5: 83.7%Engineering · 6: 86.5%Engineering · 7: 88.4%Engineering · 8: 89.9%Engineering · 9: 91.2%Engineering · 10: 92.0%Engineering · 11: 93.0%Engineering · 12: 93.7%Engineering · 13: 94.2%Engineering · 14: 94.5%Engineering · 15: 94.9%Engineering · 16: 95.5%Engineering · 17: 95.8%Engineering · 18: 96.1%Engineering · 19: 96.3%Engineering · 20: 96.6%Sales · 1: 11.9%Sales · 2: 21.7%Sales · 3: 30.6%Sales · 4: 37.5%Sales · 5: 43.9%Sales · 6: 49.3%Sales · 7: 54.2%Sales · 8: 58.4%Sales · 9: 61.9%Sales · 10: 65.2%Sales · 11: 67.7%Sales · 12: 70.0%Sales · 13: 72.3%Sales · 14: 74.3%Sales · 15: 76.2%Sales · 16: 77.8%Sales · 17: 79.3%Sales · 18: 80.6%Sales · 19: 81.6%Sales · 20: 82.4%Marketing · 1: 6.8%Marketing · 2: 13.0%Marketing · 3: 19.0%Marketing · 4: 24.2%Marketing · 5: 28.8%Marketing · 6: 32.9%Marketing · 7: 36.9%Marketing · 8: 40.5%Marketing · 9: 44.1%Marketing · 10: 47.5%Marketing · 11: 50.5%Marketing · 12: 53.3%Marketing · 13: 55.9%Marketing · 14: 58.1%Marketing · 15: 60.3%Marketing · 16: 61.9%Marketing · 17: 63.8%Marketing · 18: 65.5%Marketing · 19: 67.2%Marketing · 20: 68.6%Customer success · 1: 4.3%Customer success · 2: 9.3%Customer success · 3: 13.6%Customer success · 4: 18.3%Customer success · 5: 22.5%Customer success · 6: 26.9%Customer success · 7: 30.7%Customer success · 8: 34.1%Customer success · 9: 36.9%Customer success · 10: 40.1%Customer success · 11: 42.8%Customer success · 12: 45.3%Customer success · 13: 47.6%Customer success · 14: 49.3%Customer success · 15: 51.3%Customer success · 16: 53.1%Customer success · 17: 54.8%Customer success · 18: 56.2%Customer success · 19: 58.0%Customer success · 20: 59.5%Sales: half by hire 796.6%82.4%68.6%59.5%

Share of startups with at least one hire in each function among their first n hires. A line crosses the 50% mark at the median first-arrival hire number for that function.

Source: Ken internal data (company and career records Ken uses for sales and outreach), analysed by Cristian Frunze.

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Data for figure 1: Half of startups have a seller by hire 7, a marketer by hire 11
Hire numberEngineeringSalesMarketingCustomer success
141.1%11.9%6.8%4.3%
261.1%21.7%13.0%9.3%
372.6%30.6%19.0%13.6%
479.0%37.5%24.2%18.3%
583.7%43.9%28.8%22.5%
686.5%49.3%32.9%26.9%
788.4%54.2%36.9%30.7%
889.9%58.4%40.5%34.1%
991.2%61.9%44.1%36.9%
1092.0%65.2%47.5%40.1%
1193.0%67.7%50.5%42.8%
1293.7%70.0%53.3%45.3%
1394.2%72.3%55.9%47.6%
1494.5%74.3%58.1%49.3%
1594.9%76.2%60.3%51.3%
1695.5%77.8%61.9%53.1%
1795.8%79.3%63.8%54.8%
1896.1%80.6%65.5%56.2%
1996.3%81.6%67.2%58.0%
2096.6%82.4%68.6%59.5%

Engineers fill the first seats, sellers the later ones

Engineering is the most common function at each of the first five hires, and it holds 41.1% of hires 1 to 5. By hires 16 to 20 its share is down to 34.0%. Sales, marketing and customer success together rise from 27.1% to 37.2% over the same stretch, with sales alone going from 13.7% to 20.2%.

Across all 20 hires, engineering holds 37.0%, sales 17.4%, marketing 8.0%, product and design 7.9%, customer success and support 7.8% and operations and admin 6.7%. People and recruiting (1.9%) and finance and legal (2.0%) are rare this early.

Figure 2Engineering's share falls and sales rises across the first 20 hires
  • Hires 1-5
  • Hires 16-20
Engineering's share falls and sales rises across the first 20 hiresGrouped bar chart. Engineering falls from 41.1% of hires 1 to 5 to 34.0% of hires 16 to 20. Sales rises from 13.7% to 20.2%, customer success and support from 5.8% to 8.9% and marketing from 7.6% to 8.1%. Product and design goes from 8.5% to 7.4% and operations and admin from 7.1% to 6.6%.0%20%40%Share of hires (%)EngineeringEngineering · Hires 1-5: 41.1%41.1%Engineering · Hires 16-20: 34.0%34.0%SalesSales · Hires 1-5: 13.7%13.7%Sales · Hires 16-20: 20.2%20.2%MarketingMarketing · Hires 1-5: 7.6%7.6%Marketing · Hires 16-20: 8.1%8.1%Customer success and supportCustomer success and support · Hires 1-5: 5.8%5.8%Customer success and support · Hires 16-20: 8.9%8.9%Product and designProduct and design · Hires 1-5: 8.5%8.5%Product and design · Hires 16-20: 7.4%7.4%Operations and adminOperations and admin · Hires 1-5: 7.1%7.1%Operations and admin · Hires 16-20: 6.6%6.6%
  • Hires 1-5
  • Hires 16-20
Engineering's share falls and sales rises across the first 20 hiresGrouped bar chart. Engineering falls from 41.1% of hires 1 to 5 to 34.0% of hires 16 to 20. Sales rises from 13.7% to 20.2%, customer success and support from 5.8% to 8.9% and marketing from 7.6% to 8.1%. Product and design goes from 8.5% to 7.4% and operations and admin from 7.1% to 6.6%.0%10%20%30%40%50%Share of hires (%)EngineeringEngineering · Hires 1-5: 41.1%41.1%Engineering · Hires 16-20: 34.0%34.0%SalesSales · Hires 1-5: 13.7%13.7%Sales · Hires 16-20: 20.2%20.2%MarketingMarketing · Hires 1-5: 7.6%7.6%Marketing · Hires 16-20: 8.1%8.1%Customer successand supportCustomer success and support · Hires 1-5: 5.8%5.8%Customer success and support · Hires 16-20: 8.9%8.9%Product and designProduct and design · Hires 1-5: 8.5%8.5%Product and design · Hires 16-20: 7.4%7.4%Operations and adminOperations and admin · Hires 1-5: 7.1%7.1%Operations and admin · Hires 16-20: 6.6%6.6%

Share of hires in each function among hires 1 to 5 and among hires 16 to 20, across all 6,951 startups. Data and research, people and recruiting, finance and legal, general management and unclassified titles are left out.

Source: Ken internal data (company and career records Ken uses for sales and outreach), analysed by Cristian Frunze.

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Data for figure 2: Engineering's share falls and sales rises across the first 20 hires
Hires 1-5Hires 16-20
Engineering41.1%34.0%
Sales13.7%20.2%
Marketing7.6%8.1%
Customer success and support5.8%8.9%
Product and design8.5%7.4%
Operations and admin7.1%6.6%

Some functions never show up in the first 20 at many startups. 82.4% have a salesperson among their first 20 hires, 68.6% a marketer and 59.5% a customer success or support hire. Only 25.0% have a people or recruiting hire, and 28.0% a finance or legal hire.

The order is a tendency, not a rule

Most startups follow the same broad path, but no single sequence dominates. Among the 2,655 startups whose first 20 hires include an engineer, a salesperson, a marketer and a customer success hire, the most common order is exactly that one, at 11.5%. Close behind come engineering, sales, customer success, then marketing (11.2%), and engineering, marketing, sales, then customer success (10.7%). 12.4% of all the startups made three engineering hires before anyone else.

Twenty hires take a median 44 months

Counting from the middle of the founding year, hire 10 arrives after a median 31 months and hire 20 after 49. From the first hire to the 20th takes 44 months, with the middle half of startups between 30 and 62.

Younger startups look faster. Those founded 2021 to 2022 that already have 20 hires got there in 30 months, against 56 for those founded 2012 to 2014. Part of that gap is built in: young startups only make the sample if they reached 20 quickly, and older ones have lost more early profiles. Read it as selection, not a trend.

Startups that grew hired faster, and added sellers sooner

To compare outcomes fairly, we took the 2,720 startups whose 20th hire came by the end of 2020, so each had more than five years to grow. By early 2026, 606 had reached 100 people and 1,462 had stayed under 50.

  • Pace. Growers went from hire 1 to hire 20 in 29 months, against 42 for the stallers: 13 months faster (95% interval 11 to 15).
  • Mix. Their first 20 hires held more salespeople (18.4% against 15.3%) and fewer engineers (36.8% against 39.9%). Their first customer success or support hire came at hire 13, against 17.
  • Scaling roles. More growers had a people or recruiting hire among their first 20 (29.9% against 23.1%), and a finance or legal hire (34.0% against 26.5%).
Figure 3Startups that grew to 100 reached hire 20 more than a year sooner
  • Grew to 100
  • Stayed under 50
  • Middle half of startups
Startups that grew to 100 reached hire 20 more than a year soonerRange chart. Hire 1 to hire 20: 29 months at startups that grew to 100 people, 42 at startups that stayed under 50. Founding to hire 10: 21 against 28. Founding to hire 20: 32 against 47.0122436486072MonthsHire 1 to hire 20Hire 1 to hire 20 · Grew to 100: 29 (21 to 39)29Hire 1 to hire 20 · Stayed under 50: 42 (30 to 56)42Founding to hire 10Founding to hire 10 · Grew to 100: 21 (13 to 31)21Founding to hire 10 · Stayed under 50: 28 (18 to 41)28Founding to hire 20Founding to hire 20 · Grew to 100: 32 (22 to 43)32Founding to hire 20 · Stayed under 50: 47 (33 to 62)47
  • Grew to 100
  • Stayed under 50
  • Middle half of startups
Startups that grew to 100 reached hire 20 more than a year soonerRange chart. Hire 1 to hire 20: 29 months at startups that grew to 100 people, 42 at startups that stayed under 50. Founding to hire 10: 21 against 28. Founding to hire 20: 32 against 47.0122436486072MonthsHire 1 to hire 20Hire 1 to hire 20 · Grew to 100: 29 (21 to 39)29Hire 1 to hire 20 · Stayed under 50: 42 (30 to 56)42Founding to hire 10Founding to hire 10 · Grew to 100: 21 (13 to 31)21Founding to hire 10 · Stayed under 50: 28 (18 to 41)28Founding to hire 20Founding to hire 20 · Grew to 100: 32 (22 to 43)32Founding to hire 20 · Stayed under 50: 47 (33 to 62)47

Months to each milestone, for startups whose 20th hire came by the end of 2020. Dots are medians; lines span the middle half of startups (25th to 75th percentile). Founding is counted from the middle of the founding year.

Source: Ken internal data (company and career records Ken uses for sales and outreach), analysed by Cristian Frunze.

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Data for figure 3: Startups that grew to 100 reached hire 20 more than a year sooner
Grew to 100Middle half of startupsStayed under 50Middle half of startups
Hire 1 to hire 202921 to 394230 to 56
Founding to hire 102113 to 312818 to 41
Founding to hire 203222 to 434733 to 62
Figure 4Growers' first 20 held more sellers and fewer engineers
  • Grew to 100
  • Stayed under 50
Growers' first 20 held more sellers and fewer engineersGrouped bar chart. Engineering 36.8% at growers against 39.9% at stallers. Sales 18.4% against 15.3%. Customer success and support 7.9% against 6.7%. Marketing 7.6% against 7.9%. Product and design 7.3% against 8.7%. Operations and admin 6.0% against 6.8%.0%20%40%Share of hires 1-20 (%)EngineeringEngineering · Grew to 100: 36.8%36.8%Engineering · Stayed under 50: 39.9%39.9%SalesSales · Grew to 100: 18.4%18.4%Sales · Stayed under 50: 15.3%15.3%Customer success and supportCustomer success and support · Grew to 100: 7.9%7.9%Customer success and support · Stayed under 50: 6.7%6.7%MarketingMarketing · Grew to 100: 7.6%7.6%Marketing · Stayed under 50: 7.9%7.9%Product and designProduct and design · Grew to 100: 7.3%7.3%Product and design · Stayed under 50: 8.7%8.7%Operations and adminOperations and admin · Grew to 100: 6.0%6.0%Operations and admin · Stayed under 50: 6.8%6.8%
  • Grew to 100
  • Stayed under 50
Growers' first 20 held more sellers and fewer engineersGrouped bar chart. Engineering 36.8% at growers against 39.9% at stallers. Sales 18.4% against 15.3%. Customer success and support 7.9% against 6.7%. Marketing 7.6% against 7.9%. Product and design 7.3% against 8.7%. Operations and admin 6.0% against 6.8%.0%10%20%30%40%50%Share of hires 1-20 (%)EngineeringEngineering · Grew to 100: 36.8%36.8%Engineering · Stayed under 50: 39.9%39.9%SalesSales · Grew to 100: 18.4%18.4%Sales · Stayed under 50: 15.3%15.3%Customer successand supportCustomer success and support · Grew to 100: 7.9%7.9%Customer success and support · Stayed under 50: 6.7%6.7%MarketingMarketing · Grew to 100: 7.6%7.6%Marketing · Stayed under 50: 7.9%7.9%Product and designProduct and design · Grew to 100: 7.3%7.3%Product and design · Stayed under 50: 8.7%8.7%Operations and adminOperations and admin · Grew to 100: 6.0%6.0%Operations and admin · Stayed under 50: 6.8%6.8%

Share of hires 1 to 20 in each function, for 606 startups that grew to 100 people and 1,462 that stayed under 50. The sales gap is +3.1 points (95% interval +1.7 to +4.6), the engineering gap -3.1 points (-4.8 to -1.3).

Source: Ken internal data (company and career records Ken uses for sales and outreach), analysed by Cristian Frunze.

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Data for figure 4: Growers' first 20 held more sellers and fewer engineers
Grew to 100Stayed under 50
Engineering36.8%39.9%
Sales18.4%15.3%
Customer success and support7.9%6.7%
Marketing7.6%7.9%
Product and design7.3%8.7%
Operations and admin6.0%6.8%

What we expected, and what we found

We wrote down our predictions before pulling any data. Two of them were wrong in ways that matter.

We expected growers to build a more technical early team, with an engineering share at least 5 points higher and fewer salespeople. They did the opposite: 3.1 points fewer engineers and 3.1 points more salespeople. We also expected them to reach hire 20 in less than half the stallers' time. They took 0.69 of it.

We expected the first salesperson between hires 3 and 6. The median startup hired one at hire 7. The rest of the predicted order held: engineering, then sales, then marketing, then customer success.

This is a comparison, not an experiment. A startup that finds demand early may hire sellers and support because it has customers, rather than grow because it hired them. Reweighting the stallers to the growers' founding years and share of US companies shrinks the pace gap to 10 months and leaves the sales gap in place, at 3.3 points.

How it fits with the first sales hire

Our earlier study of the first sales hire timed the first account executive at a median 47 months after founding, with 12 people on the team. Companies that passed 100 people hired theirs sooner (36 months against 49) but with a larger team (28 people against 11). An account executive is a narrower role than sales here, which also counts business development and account managers.

What this data cannot show

  • Six countries only. Staff elsewhere are missing. A startup whose first engineers sat abroad shows a later first engineer here, and "reached 100" means 100 people visible in these six countries.
  • Missing profiles. People who deleted a profile, or left a short job off it, are not in the data. Removing a quarter of each startup's hires at random changed no order of first arrivals. It moved the first sales hire from 7 to 6 and customer success from 15 to 14. So the true hire numbers probably sit a little later than measured, and the true pace is a little faster.
  • Same-month starts. 46.3% of hires 1 to 20 started in the same month as another hire at the same startup, so the order within a month is arbitrary.
  • Vague titles. 5.2% of the first 20 hires have titles too vague to classify.

What it means for founders

  • Plan for a seller around hire 7. Half of startups had one by then, 65.2% by hire 10 and 82.4% by hire 20.
  • Don't copy a fixed sequence. The most common order of the four main functions covers only 11.5% of the startups that hired all four. Let your customers set the order.
  • Customer success comes late, and growers brought it forward. The first support or success hire came at hire 13 at growers, against 17 at stallers.
  • Pace set the growers apart most. They reached 20 hires 13 months sooner, while their mix differed by about 3 points. Neither proves the hires caused the growth, so hire when there is demand to serve.

Data and method

Data
Ken internal data: the public work histories and company records Ken uses for sales and outreach, reused by Cristian Frunze for this study, plus SEC Form D filings for one check on US companies. Work histories cover people currently in six English-speaking countries.
Sample
6,951 software startups with at least 20 hires, holding 609,278 hires. Product-software industry labels include some consumer software. Outcome comparison: 606 startups that grew to 100 people and 1,462 that stayed under 50.
Date range
Startups founded 2012 to 2022, hires counted to March 2026.
Method
Pre-registered study. Hires ordered by start month, with the median first-arrival hire number per function, and growers compared with stallers using bootstrap 95% intervals. A separate analysis recomputed 88 numbers, and all matched.
Excluded
  • Founders (12,289 tagged), interns, advisors, board members and investors, who are not counted as hires
  • Startups with fewer than 20 hires, or with 3 or more people who joined before the founding year
  • Hires who joined after March 2026, because profiles add new jobs late
Privacy
Aggregates only. Any group smaller than 50 people is suppressed, and no individual is named.
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